I don't know what's worse. Believing that you have a wonderful future of living forever on a paradise earth or knowing the truth that all that awaits you is a cold dark grave.
paul from cleveland
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To Ex-JWs: Do You Regret Learning it Was a Lie?
by leavingwt inthis question was inspired by a question on another thread.
to the ex-jw community here,.
do any of you regret learning that wt is not god's organization?
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
Really Mouthy? You've been praying for me? Thank you very much!
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
thank you
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
Thanks Billy, I'm seeing the doctor tomorrow, maybe I'm just depressed.
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How can you test whether you have broken free of the mind control
by cantleave init's been less than a year but i think i am nearly there.. i can read through a mag or sit through a meeting and instantly see through the bs.. i can watch the news without thinking is this a part of the composite sign.. i see people for what they are without trying to pigoen hole them.. i'm not worried what the elders think.. however,.
i still show too much interest if i see something about a jw in the media.. i notice kingdom hall if driving through a new place.. i still want to stop and say hello if i see a group of witnesses on the street.. how do you guys and gals measure the progress of your exit from the cult?.
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paul from cleveland
I think once you're a believer, your brain is rewired. It'll never be the same again. Once the watchtower bell has been rung in your head, it can't be unrung.
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paul from cleveland
VoidEater, thank you very much! You've given me ideas on areas I need to explore.
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
Void Eater, thanks for the point by point reply.
Mouthy, I'm going tomorrow at 2:30
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
to think that we are evil and fated for evil is just an easy way out of excusing ourselves when we do what is wrong KNOWING it is wrong.
This makes sense. Maybe I was just rationalizing behavior by saying it's destined to be this way. That way, in my mind, I was making God the bad one, not me.
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
I know I'll be ridiculed for these thoughts but they're directed toward those who still believe the Bible is God's word.
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Is this our fate?
by paul from cleveland inis there fate?
if so, are we fated to be the bad evil slave?.
if the bible prophecies that there will be an 'evil slave that falls away and beats his fellow slaves because the master is delaying' doesn't that mean that someone has to fulfill that prophecy otherwise the prophecy would be false?
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paul from cleveland
Wow, I don't want to live in your reality.
Onthewayout: I don't want to live in my reality either.
Ynot: Didn't Jesus say that it would have been better if Judas had never been born? Doesn't that mean that some are destined for destruction regardless of what they want?
maybe what binds us is our heart condition and our daily application of Jesus teachings to our lives so that should he arrive at a time when we have not taken notice he will still find us living according to what he set forth.
Also, I can't live according to what he set forth. I can't even come close. Do you feel that you are able to do it? Do you feel that you have God's spirit? If the witnesses aren't true, and there aren't two classes of Christians, why can't I have God's spirit and be born again too? Is that something reserved only for those of God's choosing? If so, doesn't that mean that if God doesn't choose me I'm doomed, regardless of the fact that I would like to be saved? Perhaps I'm group similar to the group Judas was in and it would have been better if I hadn't been born. I know I don't have God's spirit... if I had it I would know it, right?